The Herron Perspective: Conversations on Leadership, Culture & Technology
An Atos UK&I podcast
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About this podcast
Born in December 2025, this podcast brings you fascinating conversations with a full range of guests – from sporting legends, business world titans, entrepreneurs and big thinkers.
Michael curates the podcast from start to finish, ensuring it is worthy of your time and attention, and you’ll take something from each of our 30min episodes.
We’ll be bringing you an episode every two months.
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In this episode, Michael and Shevaun reflect on what it really means to lead through sustained change. From seismic geopolitical events and shifting UK politics to profound social change and the rapid rise of new technologies, they share first‑hand experiences of navigating uncertainty and transformation in business.
The discussion is anchored in insights from their joint research report, Powering productivity: AI and the future of UK work, which explores the evolving workforce and offers clear recommendations for both business and government. Rather than treating innovation as something organisations must tackle alone, Michael and Shevaun make a strong case for shared learning between business and government finding solutions together.
They explore how practical frameworks, toolkits and targeted support can accelerate responsible technology adoption and the breadth of thinking required to respond to future change in the workplace.
Join us for a conversation peppered with optimism for the future and shared enjoyment in leading, learning, and supporting UK business through such a pivotal moment.

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Shevaun Haviland, Director General at British Chambers of Commerce
Shevaun Haviland CBE has been Director General of the British Chambers of Commerce since 2021. Previously Head of Business Engagement at Number 10 and Head of the Inclusive Economy Partnership in the Cabinet Office, she began her career in consultancy before senior roles at the Walt Disney Company and Disneyland Paris. She later led global accounts at Millward Brown, Mindshare and WPP, co‑founded Independents United, and built new ventures at Avado. Awarded a CBE in 2025 for services to business, she also serves on the ICC World Chambers Federation, is a Trustee of WoW and Barefoot College, and a Venture Partner at Conduit Connect.
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